desum | yogen wants to hear ur cr

midori, your turn to die
komaeda nagito, danganronpa 2

( attacking you like a feral animal for komaeda )

hello! amami is a rough one who has seen komaeda at his most vulnerable, about three times? maybe four. it really is that post of someone cutting the rock, and you don't see how much your work has affected that person until the final moment :), there's going to be a day where amami touches the rock, and it cracks open and he'll see whatever is beautiful or disgusting inside of komaeda.

anyway, komaeda doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve, but amami knows best of how komaeda probably is aside from like his very close castmates. he found this out through his own effort without komaeda even talking about it which komaeda would give praise too if he wasn't embarrassed or nervous.

komaeda, does, strictly love amami for his talent, like he's so smitten so he means it when he says he loves him — not for the right reasons, but komaeda does care about him. because of that love, he tries to force their roles into being master/servant, important/non important because he feels that amami should be above him. it scares him when amami tries to put them on equal level because he's unable to compare to amami who is so well loved and valued among their peers, and komaeda doesn't want to ruin that for him.

in terms of hope too, which i have to think about his previous hope dealings, he's a very bright person to komaeda — you know how when you look up to the sun, and it burns your eyes, but you can't make it out... he can make this out, and it doesn't burn, and i think with all the ultimates, he might feel the most comfortable in his glow where he doesn't put up his defense immediately. everyone else he's like someone walking on glass, ready to cut his flesh just to get to them, but he doesn't really have that going with amami as much anymore? like sure, he still has freak behavior, but you can see he's... better than what he used to be, i think that shows?

sighs and then i could talk abt the trust

10000/10 hope stat!

gimmie

Edited 2022-02-20 04:57 (UTC)

nanami: god as you know she is the moment but also komaeda's closure. she's a very important person to him due to being modeled after the person he called hope himself, so she has so much weight in his life, in his death, think its so cute she worked hard and made that happen. he cares about her way too much, i think it's an honest love actually knowing the position that he's in, but that love will die down to a sibling sort of love, which is a new love for him because he has love for his kids, but family is really rare for him. right now they're arguing in yogen so you know how that goes, it's not even arguments, it's emotions vs. emotions, but they're going to be okay because once they're past that, she'll have her idiot again where he puffs up his jacket or mimics her, or do whatever little wholesome thing komaeda does. he can be at ease, still a little freak, but you can tell that they're from the same point of information, had been through it all so he feels like a sense of understanding.

cannot wait to color in her book make it happen.

as for midori, he's interested in her because of the information she gave him, but i find that he'll be super interested in her soon from the way our threads are going!?!? he's a medical man at heart, and she's always sleeping and does she take care of herself, can she become a test subject, but mostly she's an ai so he'd be interested in her code, and maybe open her up more if she's just locked to a certain setting in her feelings... midori can help with that.

ranger: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i hate him and that he's domesticated now, komaeda domesticated this cat you know i tell you a lot how did komaeda get ranger and i know why and what he said that was the nail in the coffin, i just do think it's funny that komaeda likes him and worries about his luck around him. he doubles down on it because when good things are by him, he really doesn't want to lose it... ranger's like his ai, belongs to him, komaeda has worked hard... when will he work as hard for other people like he did ranger, i swear its at random.

he finds ranger so reliable, and even then he doesn't want the other to do things for him because komaeda's the type to do it himself. so when ranger tries to stop him from doing x thing, komaeda's just like he's willing to risk his life for hope, and if this action also gives ranger hope down the line, he'll want to do it. it's always been about ranger's hope from the start, and it still is now which makes komaeda work even more to try and help him find what his hope is since ranger is pure logic, and hope isn't anything logical, but for komaeda it is...

i know komaeda treats ranger like a human, but komaeda doesn't even see people as people so he just treats him how he treats people... which i guess... works for them. i do feel like ranger should have killed komaeda when he had the chance. anyway, as much as komaeda is a loner, i think he's happy that there's someone who can understand him, and that he genuinely likes ranger's company, and walking with him place as a set of two along with making conversation about unorthodox things. that's his partner now, and he knows he can't get out of it.

midori: i told you in discord u cant make me aloud

komaeda pls

miyuki...miyuki...miyuki... you are a mess.

that doesn't mean komaeda dislikes him for it, no, through the entirety of this murder... he's stood out. where subaru sat to the side, hoping for other people to get accused, miyuki fought his battles. komaeda liked that about him, that even though the opposite team's cards were pushing him in a corner, miyuki does not give up. it's admirable for being a talentless lover, and this is why komaeda loves the underdogs, they're able to curate hope just by fighting back.

komaeda's never really paid miyuki any mind, and he treats him the way he does because of yogen seniority, shouldn't have died! but he can see the growth coming from him, and how he desires straightforward responses to understand the situation.

that's a flaw too, as albert einstein said, if it is not absurd, then there's no hope in it, which means you have to understand that all paths won't have one direction, there's various hills and slopes, and if he doesn't train himself for those, he'll lose his way and die in a ditch.

komaeda rates his hope 4/10

his impression of bonnie is that he also has yogen seniority, and he thinks she's interesting from where she is. he'll have to check on her before i can give a hope rating.

he'd give her cash because he doesn't care for money.

both both both give me my dream men

komaeda: sara...
sara...
baby girl, his cinnamon fucking apple!!! in one thread, komaeda related her to komaru, which is very important because even though that's his despair era, that was probably the most basic bitch alive that made him go: untalented, insignificant people can do something to— he wants sara to surprise him, mostly make him take back everything he's done to patronize her abt before. he's very, very confident when he uses her name when talking to other people, because he has that much hope in her that she can help the regular individuals like her.

i want to say he's smart enough not to put that on a teenage girl, but he's done it before, and since he's still part despair, i think his brain won't limit that because he finds all his choices correct, and that means sara while having her faults, and will let him down, she will learn from them rather than backing herself up into a wall, and acting like she can't move over this hurdle. it's because she doesn't allow anything to stop her, she's like an unstoppable force, just like komaeda can be one, so in a way, he does care for her, and want to see the best for her.

he doesn't say that aloud though, because it should be obvious that someone wants to work hard, but he does love her rough way of motivating others. she's still a kid, and she has so much going for her, and she's one of his favorite normies like genuinely, that's why he tries sooo hard to make her hate him or do something she doesn't like, and yes, he was happy with her threatening him.

by acting like that, she's one of the people he doesn't want to hurt due to his luck, because losing her would be both a shame, but also she'd make such a proper stepping stone that he couldn't decide, before he would have loved her to be the latter, but now because of where their cr is... it's like komaeda could kill the entire school for hope, and yeah he could nuke them rokkun style, but she's one of the people he would give a symbolic death too.

that's his shujinkou-chan, cutesified, i think it's cute because canonly komaeda says that he shouldn't have made fun of hinata because he wanted to be a protagonist too, and shujinkou-san is miss protagonist, so i always wondered did komaeda look at them and wanted just a shred of what they had because he could never become it no matter how hard he tries. :)

hope is 7.2/10

midori: GOD why am I here. sara is his girlfriend, they've been dating for a whole year in his head, happy anniversary baby ❤️. he idolizes her for what she can be and what he can turn her into, it's just a long process, and calls for the waiting game, and he has all the patience in the world because he's only so% doll.

where he's petty with alice, i think even if sara killed him, love outweighs everything because they were all set up for the game In a certain way, and sara was to win at the expense of her friendships, but that did not happen... reset the game data! now that they're in a new environment they can't play new games , but I still believe he'll want to encourage her to be the "old sara" the "cruel sara" that enchants him and kills whoever, his harbinger of destruction, it's that sara he wants to see again and if the opportunity shows itself... why not? teasing her, playing with her, making things look darker than they should be when they're really not but surprise maybe they really are, she might want to stay vigilant, but since she killed him (but safalin and meister are here no more to get in his way if it wasn't for those meddling asunaros!!!).

his relationship with sara will be fine, she knows what to do to make him humble ;]

crying they don't technically have cr yet but tell me midori's thoughts anyway
what does komaeda think of his scrunkly?

alright, i only had four hours of sleep and that is enough time for the human brain to be like yes, this is how the cr goes. you might not know, but komaeda is the only one (aside from rokkun) who hears about or knows about past cr and is like okay, he understands there was something important about them. because sighs, rokkun being rokkun and having all this past stuff with komaeda is like he shouldn't ignore that part of him, even though he has dementia and because komaeda does, he only remembers a few things despite how hazy. it's just the little things he remembers that remind him, but give him a few more months, that'll probably lessen to because his memory-- dementia patients sure do have it hard remembering things that they like.

which is to say komaeda does like shin, i'm sorry, it's really hard to make komaeda hate a person because that word us usually reserved for despair and junko, and even then at one point he had a massive love/hate with her. shin's actions are hopefilled, despite him being afraid, he does try to give direction, protect others, and it give chance for the future. it's truly a beautiful thing to see it take form, and while hope is komaeda's livelihood and shin doesn't understand it, it makes his actions all the more pure. it's a shame by using komaeda's hope senses that shin would never know how much he has himself, because even komaeda feels he has no hope / doesn't see it, but shin would be able to see everyone else's.

because of him doing these things to motivate hope, garner it, komaeda likes him on his terms-- the past pieces would have been to make him genuinely like him like a normal person because komaeda can never love or appreciate someone as a person. it's like if that special person who existed that understood you, there's no way you want to lose that, because understanding is so important to komaeda, he wants to understand a person, because that's his love language. that's why he learns about shin now, too, it's still an I love you even from beyond the grave, even if shin doesn't.

can you call this a love-love, probably not, he just loves his hope.

i also love how komaeda knows so much about shin, but shin knows nothing about komaeda which also might be why shin feels the way he do. komaeda has like so much information on what makes him tick, but in regards to what shin knows it's basically nothing-- hm, aside from his sickness, he probably does know that, and little things, but in komaeda's life that makes him... komaeda. i think it's cute, i hope one day he learns something as to why he's like that, i think it'd be cute because i remember you said something like if he knew he was brainwashed or whatever but why are they still the same, sometimes you're less murdery before your brainwashed!

while brushing my teeth i thought about how shin keeps people away from komaeda because he doesn't want them to be hurt where as komaeda keeps people away from himself so he doesn't want them to be hurt. sumn about that.

anyway, that's his cute skrunkly that he's training in detective department, but also their relationship has changed a drastic amount, from what it was. but one-sided love is komaeda's theme, and so he treats this like any other person would, and he does what he wants-- shin can tell him no, and komaeda just does his own thing, and continues messing with him. he can be genuine, and that's why he doesn't give up on him even if shin :/ because he's a murderer, and I guess komaeda see that as a problem, but with as much as he knows about midori just by sara / ranger/ alice I'm pretty sure he can probably piece together the similarities somewhere, and probably get why shin does what he does-- which means komaeda might one day ask him about it, but out the blue when he doesn't realize expect it.

sighs, i have feelings for them only because it's such a mess if misunderstandings, previous truama and it's unhealthy because of that, but whereas shin festers off past incidents, komaeda uses those to improve, and why he continues his relationship with shin because even if things don't go as they should, why should he leave him behind when they have this life to think about and make the most of it that they should. anyone we lived in komaeda's world for such a long time... no one is getting out! as long as shin can make hope, as long as that scribble light exists, komaeda won't let him go.

Midori IS the concept of love! He loves Shin! That's his toy, and you know all those messy little things that make their relationship. Before, it is such a shame that he died, because all his planning went down the drain, but he did lose out on his influence with Shin which gave him the ideal relationship with him, and even if Midori was scary af, Shin still stayed around, so they must have been happy in that unhealthy way. Now for the real thoughts, I do feel like maybe had he came earlier or around the time Shin appeared, he would have had an easier time getting him back-- that option is no longer there due to how much development that Shin has went through, and it's such a shame that his toy was built up by other people, and not him, but that doesn't mean he can't break him down if given the chance. That said, he would have to play his cards right, adhere to the rules of this game.

Shin will always always be his favorite right next to Sara, I don't believe that's moving, and I cannot say what will happen once Midori sees Shin alone in a room. So I can't say what will come of Midori once that chance happens, you never know maybe they can work because yogen is kind of like a small place, not many people, and tempting fate with shin when he has so many people can be dangerous when he knows people aren't just human, or he gauges his weakness of sumn!!

'it's an i love you from beyond the grave' got me in the heart i'm :''' )

i'm also crying thinking about that flickering scribble light and it being 'pure' bc shin isn't consciously trying to do hopeful things, he's just following his tattered heart. emotion shin really is the hope shin huh. love that komaeda's sticking around bc he wants to see it grow, shin can't get rid of him. takes your hands one day we will do the hope sense share i'm on the lookout for a good opportunity

and yissss shin knows some info about komaeda but it's all like... it's almost like trivia? bc it doesn't give him much insight into how komaeda thinks and ticks despite that shin is kind of blinkering himself about that, that understanding that came with the knowledge seems like naivete now. it's like how you write something in an exam and then change it but the first answer was right all along. npc shin was probably his own share of dumbass bc that's just a shin thing but shins are also perceptive and he didn't have his memories of trauma clouding his assessments and stopping himself being patient.

it also serves to make him a little envious im crying oh he knows FIVE languages ok shin please. But yeah the imbalance really bothers him bc Komaeda seems to be able to read him like a book. trying to think about when we talked about the brainwashing thing, i don't think shin knows about it but maybe one day he will get the Komaeda Backstory. keep thinking about how shin is still keeping komaeda's secrets despite disliking him, there's smth about that there

AND YEAH HHHH keep thinking about how like. how shin sees komaeda is exactly how he wants people to see him and clutching my head a bit bc it's. the same motivation of not wanting others hurt im crying. im crying at the idea of komaeda piecing together why shin is Like This and asking him out of nowhere he's goin to be startled cat

And yeah i do think that like. Shin liked that Midori paid attention to him, and gave him things, and showed him things and likely approached him to be friends with him??? even if he was scary and stressful, and I think he was very starved for friendship and Midori made sure he was the only source of it. I keep thinking about Shin describing Midori as an 'antihero' i think that's very telling in that it was like.... Shin feels he had stumbled into something larger than life, Midori was almost like a comic book character or fae creature but also a highschooler like him, he could do so many things and had a secret base, very cool. and shin was part of that now.

And I do think Shin who didn't have much of a barometer on friendship was like. trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and step around these things despite fearing him and knowing how selfish he was and all the games Midori played because Midori was filling a hole in his life but also because Shin is a kind person who wants to trust and see the best in people and Midori reached into that part of his heart and squeezed.

Kills me bc like. Shin is a smart cookie and knew things weren't right but he's exactly as vulnerable to lack of knowledge, vocabulary and experience and his own emotions as anyone else and it was like. being discomfited but unable to place his finger on the pulse of it. but you see that in things like trying to take his own photo etc that he was trying his protag best, it just wasn't enough.

And then of course by the time it started getting worse and worse and worse he was in too deep and trapped and couldn't get out. but there def were times where shin was happy in midori's company and comforted (even if often the reason he needed comforting was midori's fault, i think that's one of the things shin returned to on hindsight) and midori always seemed to know what he needed and they were both nerds (rocket punch!) so maybe they connected there even if i wonder how much of that was genuine on Midori's end or became genuine over time bc im crying at the concept of Midori playing this role and shin accidentally getting him into Gundam for real.

And yeah as terrified as Shin is at Midori being here, he HAS gone through a lot of development and made friends and it would not be easy getting him back but not impossible either which is hhhh he'd have to put in the elbow grease. i am not sure what will happen when they meet but i'm making the pray emoji for shin bc I do want him to be alright whatever happens. I'm crying shin actually has more of a position of strength than he thinks, maybe ranger and sara can get that through to him.

What are Midori thoughts if you feel like elaborating on the hate/fear... Also the fairy godmother opinions?

Alice is a chunni, he's expressive and Komaeda took mileage from that considering he was new and could warp his perception. Sometimes Midori takes after the blueprint (Komaeda), but there wasn't any ill intentions, it was more since Alice believed him, he kept it up, but he never expects it to last this long because the previous attempts were ended early. It's because Alice goes along with it that Komaeda thinks to continue it, truly if he said stop, Komaeda would just move on and refer to Alice properly, but since he hasn't...

Also it's easy to see Alice is sooooo hope coded from the way he acts and how he talks, so Komaeda has high hopes for him. Komaeda's allergic to the idea of friends because bad things happen, but he's happy there's this happy, safe alternative that he can rely on that won't have consequences towards hurting Alice, he hopes. What is it is that he enjoys being around Alice, and it's easy to tell from how much attention he gives and talks to him, but Komaeda's a lonely person so when someone sort of accepts him on his own terms, he's so easy to deal with. Also why he's willing to share the bed when Natsume comes in because they're bunk bed roommates.

He's the dog as well, Komaeda feels like if he asks Alice for something, he'll inevitably do it as long as it's safe, so he navigates through that. Anyway, he's done whatever Komaeda said so far, and he's wearing the cat tail for Alice so it's important!

For Midori, maybe Reko was his fling or something, I said this is how he got Kugie too, sometimes charisma works in your favor, and the broken heart of losing your sibling so you got to play your cards.

OK his fears, which are I find him funny because he's like whoo! rocket punch, my arms come off -- to going -- Alice you make me So Mad, So Angry. I think he is mad at him for ruining his chances because he really wanted to take part in the game, and all his work was for nothing so he probably mocks him too because he knows he can get under his skin. The fear part I would say is that he didn't see himself "dying" at that moment either, so Alice broke through his safeguard, and who is to say he can't do it again. The kryptonite, honestly, so Alice is probably the only one aside from Sara who got him, but Alice was pure coincidence, and Sara had to work for that, so it's like Oh shit, here he is, so many people tried to kill me, but he made it happen without even trying to make it happen, imagine dying to a man that goes Oh... I fucked up. So the pettiness drives his anger because he died for no reason, and the it wasn't even what he wanted to do!!! That stings, makes him even pettier so I think his anger / fear is born from that...

Looks at hands... so I do feel like at times his anger is fake because he can mock and be a bitch, but subconsciously this man killed him, so petty, having to make conscious decisions of avoiding that happening again, etc.

Midori will act like he's never seen Alice because he's playing some amnesia card, but he's just some guy with a doll body at the moment, what's the worst he can do...!!! But yes, come keep him in check.

THE CAT TAIL, I can't get over Komaeda's dedication to the Alice in Yogenland themes lmao, truly the best fairy godmother... Tbh even if Alice complains about whatever, he likes the feeling of someone depending on him for something, and sometimes the way Komaeda acts is almost what he imagines it would be like to have a younger brother. EVEN THOUGH KOMAEDA IS AN ADULT... and it's not like interacting with someone like Gin, either. So I think while there's always this sense of not knowing what to make of Komaeda (and Alice pretending that he's beyond any attachments nowadays), Alice has come to accept his presence to the point that he doesn't want to be wrong about speaking up on his behalf etc.

REKO NO... If Alice ever finds out, he will take the revelation badly, but I'm all for it. The petty anger also makes perfect sense; it absolutely fits that the murder incident was like an insult because it was accidental, taking control away from Midori by chance, and it was someone like Alice smh.

FAKE AMNESIA MIDORI, I CAN'T WAIT

THE CAT TAIL!!! GIVE me a thread where I can use it and he'll put it on. He wears it on random occasions, but he can make mileage when it's just them I'm pretty sure.

Also I thought that was cute... I think I remember one of your tags about Alice feeling like a big brother even though Komaeda's older, and that's cute because Komaeda doesn't have family left (he has found in yogen), but I could see it because Komaeda could open up to the idea of having an older brother even though Alice is younger I'm laughing, he's never had it before... I think that's so cute of Alice, I was right, puts a white knight pin on him... Komaeda's fellow dog. But he's been a good fairy god mother to try and impress him, so he thinks he's even doing good so far.

IM CRYINGGG sorry for dating your sister we could have been brother n laws xoxoxox. I'm crying looks up, we can never let Alice know, maybe...

But yes, I think it being an absolute coincidence, and accident for how prepared Midori is, how he is none steps ahead, was just so... a horrible insult, and now it's like salt in his wounds when he sees Alice alive and walking around.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FAKE AMNESIA BC yogen is all about messing with your memories baybe!!! Take care of him (death), Alice!!

WAIT HOW OLD IS KOMAEDA? All this time, I thought he's 23 (Reko age...), and Alice will probably be 26 in November, but either way, it's all weirdly cute. Cat tail-wearing fairy godmother despite both of them being grown men... it's just Komaeda being Komaeda, clearly. Just like his permanently looking ghostly, maybe he can't help it...

ALICE'S HEART CAN'T TAKE MIDORI SOMEHOW GETTING CLOSE TO REKO, NIGHTMARE FUEL (Midori is always welcome to mock him)

So all the mutual loathing will be A+

WAIT ALICE IS OLD nvm i thought he was younger NVM!! ITS TIME FOR ALICE TO BE. KOMAEDA IS THE SAME AGE..................................AS REKO..........................HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM IM CRYING. im crying yes its time for alice to be a big brother slaps that sticker on him.

WELL MAYBE IF HE HADN'T !!! GOT LOCKED UP, his sister wouldn't have got lonely and needed company. break through his amnesia and then he'll mock BREAK THRU IT!!

To be fair, Alice "you eat the green parts" does seem younger than he is?! Reko age though, it's a sign, somehow.

MAYBE IF MIDORI HADN'T BEEN STALKING REKO OR W/E IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Not that things were fine, even without him...

give the komaeda

gib

hello kibou

edit: along with komaeda, now that they've had a thread together i'd love to know midori's take on her too!

Edited 2022-02-24 00:50 (UTC)

slams into this with the nen so hard

yogen wants to hear ur cr

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