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Miyuki Shirogane ([personal profile] taketori) wrote in [community profile] desum2022-02-19 09:48 pm

yogen wants to hear ur cr

~YOGEN CHARACTER RELATIONSHIP MEME~


pictured: you, talking about what ur character thinks of someone else

step 1: post with your characters
step 2: respond to others with the characters you have CR with (or not, i aint gonna stop you)
step 3: get all the details on how their characters feel about yours!
step 4: return da favor?

i havent made one of these in a while it ok

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[personal profile] notsosou 2022-02-20 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
grabby hands
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[personal profile] shimashima 2022-02-26 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Me looking at my notes to elaborate on now that I'm more alive just... "riffraff weaklings doubting kindness, sara many friends, reko beanie sack of shit vs alice siding with sou"..... KOMAEDA GACHA WAS BETTER. BUT!!

The Shin and Alice CR situation is definitely interesting, both because of their canon interactions and because of Yogen so far. It's killing me that from Shin's perspective in Yogen, Alice is basically a friend, while Alice has been assuming that Shin most likely views it more as a continuation of working together for that brief amount of time during the death game, since the two of them and Kanna presumably had a good mix of skills that could get them through the attractions with the right combination. Helena has told him that surviving is a goal in Yogen, so once the school trip turned out horrible, he figured that the hotel room sharing must have been an instance of Shin planning ahead for a similar arrangement. The part of him that doesn't cope well with bad memories thinks that it would make sense if Shin were to dislike being reminded of the death game (and Kanna's death) at all, so it surprises him that Shin doesn't seem to prefer avoiding anyone associated with that (and him specifically because he remembers saying some harsh things to question "Sou Hiyori" even after Kanna spoke well of him).

There's also the whole decision to vote for Shin not being straightforward, even if the alternative in that particular context was out of the question altogether. Seeing Shin genuinely try to protect Kanna + the fear and desperation driving his actions + encountering the Shin AI all make it emotionally more complicated. And then there's the awkwardness of Alice's initial trying to solve the Sou Hiyori mystery by approaching Keiji...

On top of that now, Alice feels sort of responsible for Shin getting left behind in The Wilderness, since he was the one to share those coordinates, and if they go back at the right time at some point and the Shin bones are there, that will magnify it. For the time being, he gets to be secretly relieved that Shin did make it back from there somehow, and maybe it was better than Disney horrors.

Despite all of that, Alice is receptive enough to the more friendly interactions (Shin gets additional points for not being opposed to singing in the middle of the night), and being relied on. He's likely to want to intervene if Midori's presence gets to Shin, particularly as Shin seems more obviously affected by it this time, and the entire messy situation keeps reminding Alice of everything that Midori managed to pull off by targeting Reko, though it seems even more disturbing on other levels in Shin's case.

I think he's come to understand Shin's circumstances better, at least, and experiencing non-death game interaction has in fact been pleasant. He already started out kind of viewing Shin as a kindred spirit during the first main game, and they do seem to share a few similarities wrt putting up a front to conceal vulnerabilities, and being reluctant to trust people, even though they're both much softer than that on the inside, whether it manifests as protecting others or not really objecting to making friends after all. In Yogen, Alice might end up mentioning to Shin that Sara seems on edge around him for some reason.

Shin's tiny crush is safely buried, though; Alice has no idea that this basement exists?! He's still unaware of the extent of the timeline stuff, too, apart from the strangeness of everyone apparently remembering different things.
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[personal profile] notsosou 2022-03-02 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Shin being part of the yabusame sibling divide is one of those funny yet sad things yttd is so good at

I'm crying yet another instance of Shin appearing to be more of a schemer than he really is... that's a bit uncharitable though, the three of them do make a good team. I have the headcanon that in the game Shin had the idea that he, Alice and Kanna should trade tokens in a circle so that they'd end up technically having traded while still keeping all of theirs and that's why they placed high and it's my favourite thing.

It was... debateably better than the Disney horrors but it's fine, he's fine (he's not fine)

Yeah it kills me.... Shin not being dead inside and thereby Midori showing up doing even more of a number on him is like oooooof this poor lad. very glad alice is in his corner love that they both are worrying about midori getting to their siblings

ON EDGE AROUND HIM FOR SOME REASON yeah shin's definitely going to be
about that... there was a whole thing... kills me that they really were getting along for months. That might be the thing that reveals the timeline difference; it'll be interesting to see what Shin feels about Alice apparently coming from the 'other' timeline. He still has no one who can tell him if Kanna is okay : ( Apart from Midori but he doesn't trust like that.

Shin'll keep all of his feelings right here and then one day he'll die.
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[personal profile] shimashima 2022-03-08 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Right, it's an interesting detail, and I agree with what you pointed out wrt the earlier Shin and Alice interactions possibly being left over aspects that still worked either way from the deleted scenario situation instead. Alice seems pretty careful to conduct his Sou Hiyori investigation secretly, but at the same time, there are those OUTSIDERS CLUB MWAHAHA remarks of his. Meanwhile that other deleted scene where they discuss Reko's harshness is so awkward lmao.

That tokens trade headcanon I WILL BELIEVE THAT IT'S REAL, it fits perfectly. Ty Shin's hacker brain (which absolutely deserves enrichment and not starving to death...)

I'll definitely be on the lookout for opportunities for Topics to come up. It does kill me that no one besides Midori witnessed Kanna thriving. It also kills me to imagine the basement filled with things that Shin doesn't want to face sdljkdjh
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[personal profile] notsosou 2022-03-11 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
i still find Alice being like hey keiji you're a cop you know about murders right very funny, i love him so much. and hhhh yeah he really does know what it's like for popular opinion to turn against you...

IT'S SO AWKWARD, i love it so much. 'don't hate her okay?' 'right...' 'right...' honestly there's a lot of sad never to be friendships in yttd concerning shin, which is kind of the point, but i think about how much lines up for him to not get along with reko, from her initial protective sympathy (which makes him feel pitied) to her completely valid ire at his bullshit... and the deleted scene is fascinating in this context... alice explaining that she cares about the weak now and that 'weak people huh' in red text kills me...

yeah it's very fun seeing those left over aspects... all that talking with keiji. I'm crying i looked up the movie thing and it's after the shift but Alice saying Keiji should go to the movie with Shin and Kanna does delight me

his hacker brainnnn we rag on his plans a lot of the time but he really does shine when it comes to game mechanics and memory/logic puzzles... it's where people get involved that's the problem

crying he does get some enrichment from Komaeda dragging him to Puzzle Time on the regular... as well as teaching bc of that whole having to break something down for someone else aiding understanding thing

dsfdgfh occasionally things come up from it and try to strangle him but it's fine, he's fine it's all good